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alastairweller
May 10th, 2006, 17:43
I'm trying to save a phone book to a number of sim cards - however I'm having trouble saving numbers longer than 20 characters (I say character because I'm including pauses in the numbers)
Is this a limitation of SIM cards or the software?
Regards
Alastair
Alex Railean
May 10th, 2006, 23:03
SIM cards have a limitation for the maximum length of the entry. It varies from card to card.
In the attached screenshot, Name Length = 16. Check that value for your card, it should be 20.
It is a limitation of the SIM card, not of the software.
alastairweller
May 11th, 2006, 09:47
The maximum name length on these sim cards is 14 - however I'm entering the data in the number field - I am able to do it on the phone and save it to the sim, then read it into sim manager but not then able to write that data to other cards.
Regards
Alastair
Alex Railean
May 13th, 2006, 12:06
The number of the characters in the number (to avoid ambiguities, I'll change that to "the length of the number") is limited to 20 characters, by the standard. The standard also allows you to store longer numbers, the "beyond-20" digits will be stored in a separate file on the card; when browsing the card, the numbers are transparently unified, so you see a single number.
However, the number (count) of extended numbers is limited, usually to 3 or 5; in other words - if you wish to write 10 30-character numbers to the SIM, only 3 (or 5) of them will be written, the others will be trimmed down to 20 characters in length.
Are you sure that the long numbers you have are stored on the SIM, and not in the phone's memory?
alastairweller
May 15th, 2006, 09:42
It's only one long number - and it's definately stored on the sim - as sim manager reads it back.
Is there anyway that Sim Manager can write to these extra hidden bits of the card?
Regards
Alastair
Alex Railean
May 15th, 2006, 17:01
Is there anyway that Sim Manager can write to these extra hidden bits of the card?
In order to answer that question, we need to see the structure of the card, take a look at this tool [link sent via Private Message].
There is an application called SIMViewer, it makes a raw backup of the SIM card and stores the data in a file. You can email that file to supportATdekartDOTcom, we will analyze it and simulate the problem ourselves.
Note that the SIM backup will contain all your contacts and SMSes. We will not disclose that information, nor we will use it for purposes other than beta-testing. But still, perhaps it is better if you remove all the sensitive data and only leave the 'problematic' number on the card?
alastairweller
May 16th, 2006, 19:31
This seems to want the PIN2 code.
Do I need to know this to back the file up?
Alastair
Alex Railean
May 21st, 2006, 10:38
If you don't enter PIN2, the program will ignore the files that can be accessed only if PIN2 is provided. PIN2 protects information such as call costs, it does not apply to the phone-book or all the other information SIM Manager normally reads.
So you can simply press ESC when asked to enter PIN2.
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